Another piece of evidence as to who won this round. When you get the opinion editor of a major liberal newspaper to take the position that the federal government can impose martial law, suspend civil liberties and torture suspects because the majority supports such conduct, then we are living in a totalitarian state. If you believe in the rule of law, and the constitutional process, then you must view the bright lines as inviolate and Carmen Ortizism as a gross affront to liberty. If we believed in majority rule as a founding principle of our society, we would be unlikely to have women voters, free blacks or interracial couples. Fortunately, our Bill of Rights was crafted to protect us from the arbitrary whim of the majority. When mob rules becomes the basis of our acceptance of unconstitutional behavior, and Rick goes along, we can comfortably say that the terrorists have won.